Synopsis
1930s Hollywood is reevaluated through the eyes of scathing social critic and alcoholic screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz as he races to finish the screenplay of Citizen Kane.
2020 Directed by David Fincher
1930s Hollywood is reevaluated through the eyes of scathing social critic and alcoholic screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz as he races to finish the screenplay of Citizen Kane.
Gary Oldman Amanda Seyfried Lily Collins Tom Pelphrey Arliss Howard Tuppence Middleton Monika Gossmann Joseph Cross Sam Troughton Toby Leonard Moore Tom Burke Charles Dance Ferdinand Kingsley Jamie McShane Jack Romano Adam Shapiro John Churchill Jeff Harms Derek Petropolis Sean Persaud Paul Fox Tom Simmons Nick Job Colin Ward Cooper Tomlinson Julie Collis Arlo Mertz Craig Welzbacher Jessie Cohen Show All…
Mank/マンク
david fincher: imagine i dont release a movie for 6 years and then come back with a biopic that’s the sexy kind of boring and also in one scene amanda seyfried says “oh that hitler is creepers”
you guys: sounds underwhelming
you guys: what is the sexy kind of boring
me: everybody SHUT UP. what does amanda say next david
This gets so much better as it goes. It starts on such an odd note where it reads like you walked into the theatre an hour late. I think it’s just so frantic in that first act and the more it really starts to settle and invites you into what it’s trying to do, you come around to it. There’s a lot of good in here, but for someone like Fincher—a master at making the audience care about anything he throws at them—I was bored way more than I should have been.
good movie but give me Steve Kornacki busting out the Big Board and breaking down where all the different bits of Citizen Kane came from.
Why the fuck is no one talking about the fact that Bill Nye the Science Guy played Upton Sinclair in this movie
frequently funny and engaging look at the cynical intersection of wealth, media, politics and an industry of make-believe. a lot interesting ideas (including an unexpected detour into "movie magic" as less of the warm, cute, romantic nostalgia an awards movie like this typically calls for but material propaganda and another tool for the rich and powerful to use to snuff out of leftist politics) but the manner of structure and execution is all unfortunately a bit too conventional and by the very end outright careless with its history. last few minutes in particular should leave an appropriately sour taste in the mouth of any welles heads out there. there are some solid sequences when the conversations and politics start to…
basically this movie is Orson Welles trying to get Mankiewicz’s ownership share diluted down to .03%
Martin Scorsese is somewhere out there in the world crying rn cause he got this piece of cinema before having to see black widow 😍
Have you ever heard the story of the organ-grinder’s monkey?
As a Fincher-head and a massive old Hollywood fan, it actually pains me to give it a rating this low, but I have to be honest with y’all, it just didn’t completely live up to my expectations.
My main issue with the film was ironically its screenplay. While I wouldn’t normally think it fair to compare this film to Citizen Kane, the movie references it so often that practically begs the audience to. While Kane is laser focused on the rise to power, and understanding the psyche of its protagonist, Mank seems to meander often, resulting in a disjointed storyline.
In a movie about who takes credit over a screenplay,…
"Oh, Mank, are you ever serious?"
"Only about something funny."
An ice-bath sorta-satire concerning the intersection of art, commerce, and politics but made by this smirking misanthrope/moralist as openly contemptuous of people's intrinsic flaws as he is completely obsessed with them. Ahistoricity isn't the problem here, nor are the relentlessly affected period flourishes (some of which work and some of which super don't); the real thing is that all this bickering and backstabbing and competing ego and attempted mythmaking produced fucking CITIZEN KANE and its legacy, and Fincher characteristically thinks that's not only extremely ironic and funny but also incidental, and you can't do that and also ask me to be curious or to be moved. Also the really-makes-you-think timely political parallels are trite and whatever Oldman's doing, no sir, I don't like it.
I really needed 5 different characters to tell me that Citizen Kane is the best thing he’s ever written
I usually make it a policy not to rate/log anything before I finish it but.... I started this a while back, got a little more than halfway, and literally did not find one single thing that was intriguing in this story or the way it was made. I can’t compel myself to finish it, I am so uninterested.
I enjoyed this more than I expected to, and I credit the fact that I watched Citizen Kane for the first time immediately before starting this. With Kane fresh in my mind, I was able to pick up on the homages and parallels built in by Fincher Sr., which is probably this film’s greatest strength. I definitely felt it was overlong, with a lot of filler Hollywood ego stroking through the middle, but Gary Oldman and Amanda Seyfriend are compelling enough to stick with it through that sag. The production design on this is lovely, so it’s almost a shame that it’s not in color — the digital black and white feels off kilter and detracts from the realism a bit.
It took me two viewings to catch on to the organ grinder’s monkey parable because I’m a moron. But the second time around - outstanding.
The walk and talk is also one of the best scenes from 2020.
The way my liberal education has given me the predisposition to fucking hate William Randolph Hearst is only rivaled by Charles Dance always being so good that I want to punch his face
Anyway, 2020 sucked and I understand why this fizzled
Getting one star only for Amanda Seyfried, who should've been the main focus of the movie. Otherwise? Boring as absolute hell.......
Certainly a more rewarding viewing experience for cinephiles, Mank is simultaneously a loving homage to the Hollywood movies of the 1930s and a scathing critique of the men who ran Hollywood at the time and their politics. It doesn’t always succeed at balancing those two competing ideas, but when it does it’s engrossing.
Fincher emulates many of the distinct visuals of Citizen Kane and the pace and style of the films of the era. This felt like a clever wink to the audience, but the first act was sometimes so slick and quick that it almost became tiresome. As the pace settled down in the second act, my interest picked up.
I struggled with Gary Oldman’s smug take on Mank—I would have…
They don't make movies like this anymore.
Kudos to Netflix for allowing two very not mainstream films to be made in 2020, Kaufman's I'm Thinking Of Ending Things and now surprisingly David Fincher's Mank, a film that perhaps I warmed too because it's about screenwriting, but one I think is excellent, engaging and thought provoking nonetheless. The performances were also a true marvel.
Loved the music, was very iffy about the sound design and the little things Fincher did to make this seem aged. Came off as more of a gimmick than anything else. Seyfried was really good in this and Burke sounds a great deal like Welles but this was just decent for me. Like all Fincher films, I’m going to have to do a rewatch and see how I feel the second time but as of right now, it’s just decent when I was expecting more.
my cinema professor would be proud of me on how many references i understood, specially regarding the historical context the movie is set.
overall, this movie has everything the academy loves: its about citizen kane, directed by fincher, starring gary oldman (istg every movie i watch w him he looks like a completely different person), featuring a bunch of white people, with homages to classic hollywood thru the photography and montage.
the thing is, this movie has everything to be a movie id enjoy, i love the metalinguistic and the concept "a film about a film" thing, but, this wasn't it for me. I guess i wasn't interest on an alcoholic man and i couldn't connect w any of the other characters.
tho i screamed every time orson welles showed up, again, thank you professor marco for spending nearly a month teaching about citizen kane and orson welles
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